tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post113880302198134150..comments2024-02-26T11:07:08.028-05:00Comments on Leesa's Stories: On SexualityLeesahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09552562808209927463noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138890506930765862006-02-02T09:28:00.000-05:002006-02-02T09:28:00.000-05:00Interesting post and some interesting replies. As ...Interesting post and some interesting replies. As ~deb mentioned, porn mostly portrays the 'beautiful' people having sex be they homo or hetero. And the male perspective dominates what is made, so there are a lot of beautiful people having sex in ways that don't always reflect what people are really doing. Its good stuff for fantasies and masturbation, tho.SheenVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00397336652393263392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138889444169609962006-02-02T09:10:00.000-05:002006-02-02T09:10:00.000-05:00~deb: thanks for the thoughtful comments. I was, m...~deb: thanks for the thoughtful comments. I was, more than anyone else, wondering what you thought of the post.<BR/><BR/>And those people in the porn video aren't real? They aren't. Come to think of it, most heterosexual sex may turn people off as well. Think of the average participants, squeezing sex between late night shows.<BR/><BR/>GP: google is changing our lives.<BR/><BR/>hot spot: thanks.<BR/><BR/>byron: thanks.<BR/><BR/>kathi: I no longer view porn, but that is another story.<BR/><BR/>g: two things come to mind: (1) who is Selma Hayek? Lots of people think she is attractive and I have not seen her. (2) switching teams - for most of us, sex is not a team sport. When I was younger, that could have been fun, if I had not been so scared of so many aspects of sex.Leesahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552562808209927463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138882973887871332006-02-02T07:22:00.000-05:002006-02-02T07:22:00.000-05:00How did I miss this yesterday?I love this, serious...How did I miss this yesterday?<BR/><BR/>I love this, seriously. I was at work a week or two ago, and we were talking about the Golden Globes, and who looked awful, blah blah... and I said something to effect of Selma Hayek would make me switch teams and everyone at the table practically spit their food out---as if I said something so shocking. There was laughter then, and "oh g, you are a nut, etc" I couldn't help but think they have no idea or regard that I could be really attracted to a women and there is nothing wrong with that, nor does it make me gay.<BR/><BR/>Great subject.Ginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04591947349596674026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138860825205272772006-02-02T01:13:00.000-05:002006-02-02T01:13:00.000-05:00I fully agree Leessa..I fully agree Leessa..Byronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649452795419962662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138841066778125152006-02-01T19:44:00.000-05:002006-02-01T19:44:00.000-05:00deb makes a great point. There is a difference be...deb makes a great point. There is a difference between lesbian porn and girl-0n-girl porn. And the fantasy of movies and what happens in real life are always two different things. <BR/>I think one of the things that is exciting about that for men who watch women masturbate or have sex with other women taking their sexuality into their own hands (no pun intended). The idea is if they will do that they will do anything....<BR/>Anyway Leesa this really sparked some interesting discussion.Edtime Storieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15902461803848902688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138830845466509032006-02-01T16:54:00.000-05:002006-02-01T16:54:00.000-05:00I don't think I would have ever seen any male gay ...I don't think I would have ever seen any male gay sex if I had not googled it. It was different but I am glad I confronted it instead of continuing to fear it.MZPEACHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05829920267865962347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138830332801741222006-02-01T16:45:00.000-05:002006-02-01T16:45:00.000-05:00I've not been subject to too much porn, but what I...I've not been subject to too much porn, but what I have been didn't really do much for me. What turned me on was watching how much it turned the guy I was with on.kathihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13998865477080265039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138830089056681022006-02-01T16:41:00.000-05:002006-02-01T16:41:00.000-05:00Hey Leesa, Great post! I have to say—being a lesb...Hey Leesa, <BR/><BR/>Great post! I have to say—being a lesbian <I>‘in my life’</I>---I find that there’s no baggage. There were some obstacles when I was really young---as far as the fear of coming out, but everyone seemed to accept me <B>‘as is’.</B> I never had a problem with it really. Those who didn’t accept me—-well that was there problem. <BR/><BR/>Sadly enough, I think your take on <I>‘appearances’</I> have something to do with acceptance and the whole outlook on the gay lifestyle. For instance, my mother always said to me, <I>“Please don’t ever start looking like one of those ‘dykes’---keep doing your hair and nails and stay feminine, okay?”</I> As though she was making a deal with me. Here---I’ll let you be gay---if you promise to look like a girl. <BR/><BR/>Of course the majority of men love looking at two beautiful women have sex in a porno. They’re not <I>‘real’.</I> (Most of them anyway) They get paid to do that. Look into the real lifestyle of two <B>‘real lesbians’;</B> two butch women having sex. I think the men would have another take on it. I don’t think they would find it <I>sexy</I> anymore. Well, then again, it does depend on their taste. <BR/><BR/>Two men together has the same thing. Two beautiful muscular men—hairless chests---clean-cut and just groomed to perfection having sex is pretty sexy… Two lumberjacks doing on another against a tree is a whole other story. The picture in our mind changes. <BR/><BR/>I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder---and yes---appearance is everything sometimes---when it comes to picturing who’s having sex with who. <BR/><BR/>Interesting and thought provoking post!Debhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14986475569600734742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138829112134161932006-02-01T16:25:00.000-05:002006-02-01T16:25:00.000-05:00poetnyc: thanks for the compliment. Imagine creati...poetnyc: thanks for the compliment. Imagine creating an account to post a comment. Wow.<BR/><BR/>GP: I have seen a little, but I have not actively sought it. But you know, if the man was attractive, I still was turned on by the images. I still am a bit turned off with anal, so if that was not there, it was all good.<BR/><BR/>ed: seems like many women enjoy this type of porn<BR/><BR/>prata: I don't know much about prison society.Leesahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552562808209927463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138825701384708122006-02-01T15:28:00.000-05:002006-02-01T15:28:00.000-05:00One thing you should make note of, is that society...One thing you should make note of, is that society and prison society are different. It is a completely parallel culture. So, society very well may teach that male/male sexual relations is wrong/bad. However, that is only today and in America. There have been a great number of cultures (japan, roman, greek, some middle eastern very early day) where homosexuality was in fact an accepted thing. Was it condoned and encouraged? In some cultures yes, in others no; however, they weren't criminalized and considered fundamentally destructive to society as it is today in many/most cultures.<BR/><BR/>It's very feasible though that sexuality as taught by society is not at all in line with the prison societal structure. They don't necessarily always or even often intersect.Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04114220019018827843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138824429450817792006-02-01T15:07:00.000-05:002006-02-01T15:07:00.000-05:00I dated a woman who had a whole stash of gay porn ...I dated a woman who had a whole stash of gay porn that she enjoyed. I don't think it is abnormal.<BR/>I could never watch it with her though, I just don't see the attraction. <BR/>Can't write about it either. It is one of a few things I have trouble with.Edtime Storieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15902461803848902688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138822465910610592006-02-01T14:34:00.000-05:002006-02-01T14:34:00.000-05:00I googled some gay male porn this weekend. It was ...I googled some gay male porn this weekend. It was my first time ever seeing two men having sexual intercourse. It wasn't nearly as repulsive as people lead me to believe. Not at all. Very different but it was still a turn on (maybe I am just abnormal..lol). <BR/><BR/>On BBC they have a quiz that you can do to know your brain sex, they also have a quiz that determines if you like more masculine or feminine features: <BR/>http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/sexsecrets/<BR/><BR/>It's fun. <BR/>Great post, and I am loving the comments.MZPEACHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05829920267865962347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138822006206930252006-02-01T14:26:00.000-05:002006-02-01T14:26:00.000-05:00mike: and we have other advantages as well.dexter:...mike: and we have other advantages as well.<BR/><BR/>dexter: every time I go over one page, people say, "long post, I fell asleep during the post." But thanks. I was thinking about going further into the homophobic areas, but because of space and time, I decided that would be another day.<BR/><BR/>jef: thanks. You said, "Sex is about the only thing that can bring two people together and make the feel like one." I was going to be trite and say "cooking does, too." But really, I think people want to go through life with someone else, a witness of sorts.Leesahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552562808209927463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138814625236590912006-02-01T12:23:00.000-05:002006-02-01T12:23:00.000-05:00Come to think of it...yes you do!...lol.....how co...Come to think of it...yes you do!...lol.....how could I have overlooked that?miksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01014935306811504401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138814510358109492006-02-01T12:21:00.000-05:002006-02-01T12:21:00.000-05:00*ChRiSeL-DUH*: thanks for stopping by. Yeah, I rem...*ChRiSeL-DUH*: thanks for stopping by. Yeah, I remember several things from the classes that I now wish I did not know.<BR/><BR/>mike: we smell better, too.Leesahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552562808209927463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138813694927872462006-02-01T12:08:00.000-05:002006-02-01T12:08:00.000-05:00My attraction to women stems from the fact they ar...My attraction to women stems from the fact they are much purtier than us guys.<BR/><BR/>Just thought you needed to know that.miksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01014935306811504401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138811597562410742006-02-01T11:33:00.000-05:002006-02-01T11:33:00.000-05:00hi leesai met to come and comment on your blog a w...hi leesa<BR/>i met to come and comment on your blog a while back. <BR/>thanks for stopping by mine!<BR/>i used to be a Psych Major. <BR/>now i am pre-med wanting to be a psychiatrist and you are right (i will admit, at least in my case) that those in this field have their own demons. serious. intense. demons. And that's maybe why we help other peole so well... because we know they are there and want to know why. who knows. but yes, Abnormal Psych was disturbing. <BR/><BR/>i love this blog! will stop by more often... i'm adding you to my list? cool??Just this Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09342326653630476710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138811408886141892006-02-01T11:30:00.000-05:002006-02-01T11:30:00.000-05:00shannon: it is the path and not the destination wh...shannon: it is the path and not the destination which important.<BR/><BR/>ed: just broke my one-page rule; I know there are people thinking, "when is she going to get to the point."<BR/><BR/>grant: thanks for the catch; I almost missed the sperm's tail in ~deb's name. I did not know there were groups where you could become rich and famous. Son-of-a-witch!<BR/><BR/>thistle: I did not want to attach Kinsey to the writing - as there are such negative connotations with the research.<BR/><BR/>bruce: I have a wonderful therapist, so I was not trashing the whole industry. It was just what I saw, almost as if these young people wanted to "heal themselves." And it was not just the guy who wanted me to pee on him; there were a lot of students who had deep issues (child abuse, etc).Leesahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552562808209927463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138810616674613252006-02-01T11:16:00.000-05:002006-02-01T11:16:00.000-05:00Ok, as a Psych major, I can see where you're comin...Ok, as a Psych major, I can see where you're coming from, because there certainly were some squirrely folk(and professors) in my classes. But in my case, I was just attracted to the subject itself. At 19, I wasn't worldly enough to have accrued many demons. Back in my college days(early 70s), sex was not discussed like it is today, or even 10 years ago. Most of what we deealt with in my Ab Psych course was criminal behavior. How times have changed...UnHoly Diverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17187969959701732817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138809245805885072006-02-01T10:54:00.000-05:002006-02-01T10:54:00.000-05:00I took an abnormal psych class as part of the core...I took an abnormal psych class as part of the core curriculum in college, and I think I had a better experience. Sex was listed as a component, but it didn't dominate the course, and most of the students seemed normal (at least by my standards).<BR/><BR/>Despite that and my respect for the profession and the fantastically cool teacher I had, I think some of that is serious BS, especially when they try to apply algorithms to everything and treat a social science like a hard science.<BR/><BR/>It reminds me of a writer's group I joined only to discover it was a feminist group with pipe dreams of becoming rich and famous. They started discussing their classes and how they were taught you could calculate societal privilege based on a triple scale of race, wealth, and sex. As a white male, their grid indicated I was at least twice as privileged as any black female regardless of her money or social status. I thought of reminding the women that I was the only one present who had to work for a living (the white women worked part time as teacher's aides, the black women had enough financial aid to cover all their living expenses without supplementing) but if reality hadn't intruded on their studies by that point, nothing I had to say (as an evil white guy) would make much of an impression.<BR/><BR/>BTW, you forgot the ~ in Deb's name on your bloglist. It's kind of like you've been mispronouncing her name all along. :pGranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08040058320473775641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138808785501460012006-02-01T10:46:00.000-05:002006-02-01T10:46:00.000-05:00I don't sense any writer's block today...great pos...I don't sense any writer's block today...great post!!<BR/><BR/>And bummer about the mismatched parts on the kid front. If this continues I'm willing to offer myself up for adoption....I think I can still act like a kid ...lolmiksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01014935306811504401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16163858.post-1138805800424646082006-02-01T09:56:00.000-05:002006-02-01T09:56:00.000-05:00Leesa, Sexuality is so complicated and in so many ...Leesa, <BR/>Sexuality is so complicated and in so many was a social construct. We allow behavior or not based on what society says. Your experience is good example. However I think with the advent of instant communication and a bit anonymity we are able to explore things now that society wouldn't let us in the past. I will be interested in seeing how we develop as a sexual society. One thing I see as an educator is how young people react to things. <BR/>Leesa never apologize for being long in your writing, trust me you are not a boring writer and you bring up fun things to think about. Thank you. <BR/>Now I know many women who see chocolate and penises with the same desire. Now there is a store you can go to...;) Be wellEdtime Storieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15902461803848902688noreply@blogger.com